Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. This post deals with sexual assault and might be triggering for some readers. He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. with South Wales Police has recently conceded that it CANNOT be categorically stated that Harold Jones has been ruled out completely as Muriels killer. Hey Babes!I'm back with another True Crime Tuesday case and todays case is about the murder of Muriel Drinkwater also known as the little red riding hood mur. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. A team of crime experts have re-investigated the brutal killing 74 years ago and uncovered what they believe to be firm new leads in the search for who killed her, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Posted by 8 minutes ago. On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. Some companies will provide you with upto 6 generations. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Her route to her familys home Tyle-Du Farmentailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. See link to Jones and other murders. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. Her mother later went to the village to look for her when she did not return home; more than a dozen men from the area began a search. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. On 27th June 1946 a school girl was walking through countryside on her way home. Elizabeth Muriel Greenshields Drinkwater . And I also think there are likely more victims. Murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 is being probed 73 years later Police thought a stain on Muriel's coat would link death to Harold Jones But they have now confirmed a test. Do not sell or share my personal information. Some time after speaking to D.S Lloyd-Evans, D.N.A. After a previous visit to the Drinkwater family farm, Hoyles was surprised when a man in his thirties withthick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket stepped from the bushes at exactly the same location where Muriel was later ambushed. I am making a F.O.I. On this podcast episode, we cover the unsolved cold case of Muriel Drinkwater. Thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world, it was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. The 12 year old loved to sing and there was a skip in her step as she started on the winding path through the forest. Enter your email address to receive our monthly newsletter and to be notified about new posts. found on Muriels coat and D.N.A. "My grandparents changed completely. Former Detective Inspector Paul Bethell, who was in charge of South Wales Police's cold case team, explained in the documentary: "We know Muriel used to catch the school bus from the school to the gateway off the main road which led to the forestry, and then she would walk about a mile through the forestry, along the lane to the farmhouse.". taken from Jones one and only child, a daughter. Psychic Diane Lazarus Investigates Muriel Drinkwater Murder - YouTube 0:00 / 21:56 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. There must be other victims of this person as I cant see him stopping. Thanks again and take care. The electoral register having been suspended because of the war means details are hazy about where he ended up - although he did eventually resurface in South London under the name Harry Stevens, leading some to believe he was also Jack The Stripper - the serial killer who battered and strangled a number of women across the capital during the 1960s. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS. Some people turn to the murder weapon for answers and suggest that the killer was either an American serviceman who had previously been stationed at Penllergaer or that an American soldier may have sold the gun to the perpetrator in the village. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. 2023 BBC. Her parents Harold and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot of secrets from this daughter one of which may be that she wasnt Harolds daughter. Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. The police found the murder weapon in the undergrowth near where Muriels body had been discovered. Thanks again for sharing this. Something went wrong, please try again later. However, a lack of hard evidence would later see him freed. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. Great questions! It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. "Each case is reviewed periodically. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. 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Police and soldiers search the area for clues of Muriel's murder, A picture of Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, Freda Burnell (left) and Florence Little (right) - Jones' first victims, At 35-years-old Jones is released from prison, only to vanish. Colin Dark suggested the possibillity of using D.N.A to identify who took the books into the shop with the hope of identifying the killer. Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Muriel Jean Drinkwater Birth unknown Death 1983 Burial. Mudgee General Cemetery. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. "I found the original clothing," he said. The team also uncovered a book that had once belonged to Muriel but was found in a Carmarthen charity shop. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. As you know it is not possible to prove whether Harold Jones was Muriels killer by D.N.A testing Jones daughter. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. Does his daughter have a son.? Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. The last person who reported seeing her was Hubert Hoyles, then 13, who passed her on the path returning from her family farm, where he had gone to buy eggs. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. Its her birthday tomorrow, and still no closer to finding her killer. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. The comments below have not been moderated. Would a nephew definitely suffice to prove a link to Harol Jones and the crime scene stain on Muriels coat. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. She had been raped, bludgeoned about the head and shot twice in the chest. Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. 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Nevertheless, local legend tells of how, after leaving prison, he'd return to his parents' house in Abertillery from time to time, where the sound of him playing the organ in their front room would haunt the terraced streets. The crime scene is a short distance from the farmhouse. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. I am not a DNA scientist so sadly I cannot answer this question for you. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. Fingers crossed that one day a DNA match can give us the breakthrough needed to solve this case. A different D.C.I. He said, ``She was regularly seen walking, skipping and singing in the woods as she made her way each day from her home to the . If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. Investigators now allege theyve identified her murderer. Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. We can also deduce it is a average male because he must have had enough power to dominate a 12 year old girl. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. [5], Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret (ne Morgans) Drinkwater. And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. Video, 00:01:00, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. D.C, Paul Rogers, independent of Victor Penalunas theory, contacted me by phone and told me that his research had led him to believe that Harold Jones may have been Muriel Drinkwaters killer. Fifteen days later, Jones murdered 11-year-old neighbour Florence Little too, hiding her body in the attic of his parents' home. Arrested once again, Jones this time pleaded guilty to the charge of murder at aMonmouthcourt in November 1921. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home she was murdered. I hope Margaret gets the answers she deserves sooner rather than later. The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. What a big moment in this case! 'All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as 'cold cases,' are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. People had forgotten it was there. This forensic approach is becoming more common. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946, Officers searching the farmland in the days after the murder, Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, A picture of the gun police believe was used, Harold Jones, a convicted child killer who was also a suspect in Muriel's killing, Ronnie Harries, the last man to be sentenced to death in Carmarthen, The book that was found in a charity shop. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! The case, which became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . Although the decision was made immediately it took nearly 7 weeks until 16 August 2021 to get a formal decision. A moment later, Muriels path wound into a thickly wooded area, and her mother returned to her chores in the kitchen. In fact, it was recently used to identifyJoseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer who is thought to be responsible for at least a dozen murders and 50 rapes in the 1970s and 1980s in the United States. Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. The team are still investigating if this has any relevance to the case and are appealing for anyone with information about it to come forward. Advertisement. I think it will be at least 3 months before anything definite will be announced. If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. In the days and weeks that followed, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. Video, 00:02:56Detectives to revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? He also fixates on the fact that he is married to a younger woman, that she is five years younger than him, that she started going out with him when she was still in school. The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. They have a suspect in the murder case and a cousin of the suspect has given D.N.A to prove whether or not the cousin Ron Harries was the killer. You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Heres hoping one day soon Muriel gets some semblance of justice. [13] However, in 2019, South Wales Police stated that forensic tests on the DNA "categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. The reason given for sealing the files was that it could help the police catch the perpetrator. Over the years, South Wales Police have fought tooth and nail to prevent me gaining any information under the Freedom of Information Requests Act. A brother, nephew, grandson. 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater had only a mile to travel from the South Wales village of Penllergaer to the farm she lived on with her family. Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. It truly is baffling and I cant help but wonder what they are trying to hide (and why!). Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head and shot twice while walking home. Hi James. Muriels niece is in a dreadful state. Moments before being brutally attacked, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater had waved to her mother, who stood at the kitchen window, as she made her way home from Gowerton High School along the long path that led to the family home. Jones was released from prison in December of 1941, so he was a free man when Muriel was killed. We could see it [had been] in a police station, but as it closed, where did it go next? Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. They pieced together evidence from the time, used new forensic breakthroughs and links to other cases in the area to identify who they think murdered Muriel in the most horrific way. Hi Neil. During the course of the investigation the finger of blame had sometimes been pointed at Muriel's father, John. 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SOUTH Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has been investigating the murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater whose body was found in Penllergaer Woods, Swansea in 1946. ~ Christine. Welsh author Neil Milkinsargues that Harold Jones,a convicted murderer who killed two girls in Abertillery in 1921 when he was just 15 years old, was Muriels killer. They visited the Carmarthen bookshop to identify if the killers family had taken the books there. A familial DNA profile was extracted using a technique called Y-STR, but no match was found in the national DNA database. He died at that address in 1971. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. 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