Essentially, shes just a good person. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. But I think she probably knew. SHIRES: It was because Tommy Allsup was living in Snyder, Texas, at that time, and he was running the Bob Wills band. The next year, she won a Grammy for best americana album as part of her husbands group, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. Like, dont cry; dont show your emotions; be stoic; be strong; everything else is weakness. Some of the reason [The Problem] is only coming out now is fear on my part, and Ill admit that. And then I thought about Waylon [Jennings] and Kris [Kristofferson] and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, They were kind of speaking about ageism. I said, Itd be cool if I had a band, The Highwomen. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. And we met. And then and neither of them told us that stuff. GROSS: Oh, I wish he could have heard you do it. So lets hear a song about when things werent so all right. It sounds like you were about to leave the marriage. And it was much safer for us to sleep in the closet with the TV at the bail bonding place than to be left to her own devices at home. I am Terry Gross. And in this case, I wanted Jason to also come in and sing it, too. I laid hands upon the world. Its pretty obvious.. Soon after a Supreme Court draft ruling that would overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. GROSS: Well, I want to take a short break here. GROSS: I think its so interesting that your mother worked as a bail bondsman, not knowing that her own father had spent so much time in prison. So hold on to your thoughts. And then, we did it, sing the song. Then I tried recording it in a couple of other situations, and I just didnt have it right yet. Why didnt more people show up and speak up? I was snared by your wrist. And then I thought about Waylon and Kris and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, they were kind of speaking about ageism. What made you think of yourself as his disciple? Where are our Nashville folks? Theyve ended shows with Neil Youngs Like a Hurricane or Van Morrisons Into the Mystic. Tonight its the Rolling Stones Cant You Hear Me Knocking, and its ecstatic. This is FRESH AIR. In the decade-plus that Shires has been making solo albums in addition to working as a side person with Billy Joe Shaver, Justin Townes Earle and, eventually, her husband and fellow singer-songwriter Jason Isbell she's expressed self-consciousness about the shivers and tremors in her singing voice, tried to smooth them out of her delivery and ultimately embraced its untameness. However, Rapinos memo notes that Live Nation and artists can only make vaccines a requirement where permitted by law. Artists performing at government-operated venues in states where lawmakers have prohibited vaccine mandates will be prohibited from enforcing such measures. Or did you keep the songs, like, kind of secret for a while? And I also want to thank Zack Sedgefield for playing guitar and also Diana Walsh, who engineered your end of the music and the conversation from your home studio in well, outside of Nashville. Her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. In 2017, for her solo work, she was named emerging artist of the year at the Americana Music & Honors Awards ceremony. Our interviews and reviews are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Ann Marie Baldonado, Thea Chaloner, Seth Kelley and Susan Nyakundi. And your verse, you are somebody who thinks of herself as a healer but was hung in the gallows during the Salem witch trials. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there. GROSS: Oh, yeah. credit: John Shearer. Whereas before, I would just, in my mind, wish it was something different like Etta James or something. Can you play something that you think kind of epitomizes the style that you learned and fell in love with? Since starting I So Lounging, Shires YouTube following has grown 300 percent. In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. And she was like, I had no idea. And so I felt in my mind, I felt those things. To keep the newness from wearing off, for every start theres gonna be a stop. GROSS: One of the things I love about his music is the way he combined the spiritual and the profane in his songs and the spiritual and, like, anger and resentment and despair. 'Mandalorian' star Pedro Pascal, creators on new Grogu revelations and 'Last of Us' comparisons, Saved by the bell: Contestant ordered to keep mask on, in historic 'Masked Singer' first, Chris Pine admits 'it does look' like Harry Styles spit on him but this is what actually happened, Rebel Wilson 'collapsed' after Ramona Agruma proposal: 'I was so overwhelmed', Amy Grant recalls being 'so scared' to return to touring following serious bike accident. I would have died had this procedure not been available to me. And I said, Id love to. And the other parts, youre just kind of asleep. I know what the cost is in the octaves of consequence. In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Advance Local. Will you look at me the same? Here Are The Republicans Who Want Him Kicked Out, Rupert Murdoch Must Tell Fox News Hosts To Stop Spreading Election Lies, Congressional Democrats Demand, Trump Attacks Rupert Murdoch And Fox NewsAgainClaiming Destruction Of America Amid Defamation Lawsuit, These U.S.-Listed Stocks SurgeAlibaba, Baidu And MoreAfter Chinas Economic Rebound, Top NFL Prospect Jalen Carter Charged For Alleged Role In Fatal Street Race, Bite-Sized TikTok Poetry Blows UpAlong With Growing Claims Of Plagiarism, As Delta Variant Spreads, Artists and Venues Scramble to Keep Concerts Safe, Live Nation Allows Artists to Require Vaccination or Proof of Negative Test Result for U.S. Concerts. GROSS: Were you nervous about being on stage or just about singing? I know they enjoy it. And if you want a doctor, Ill examine every inch of you. And her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back after a short break. SHIRES: Thank you so much. Too caught up in the way I want you rolling over me. The Idol: How HBOs Next Euphoria Became Twisted Torture Porn Along How did you come up with the image of my hands are two empty cups? ISBELL: (Singing) Im on your side. Trending (Singing) Time was all Id want. SHIRES: On August 9, yes, I was in Texas at Austin City Limits. And luckily, my teacher was one of those good and rare teachers that notices when you know, when a student needs a little more help. But I thought, what am I going to do about that, in the event that she does go into country music? And all I could think to say/Was everythings going to be OK/Its gonna be all right/Im on your side, he sings. The Truth About Amanda Shires And Jason Isbell - TheList.com You slammed the door so hard I still hear rattling spoons. I cant see a thing from here. So lets do that. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And here it sits. "Last night you walked me to my car / You said, 'You won't be getting far before you turn around,'" she sings, her phrasing seesawing and scampering. Theyre just, you know, scans of them. When do you show him the songs? Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Kitty Eisele adapted it for the web. Never one to shy away from his beliefs, Isbell implored his fellow man, in Alabama or otherwise, to get vaccinated, that is, if they wanted to see him perform in person, hoping to make a difference. Shires would go on to make a name for herself, both as a solo artist and as the founder of the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. Which brings up the question, why were Jason and I, and Margo Price, the biggest celebrities quasi-celebrities at the march in Nashville? So I was left to the radio choices of sports ball and country top 40 country music. And any policing will disproportionately affect people of color, low-income folks and other marginalized groups. We have Olivia Rodrigo and Phoebe Bridgers speaking up, and Ariana Grande. One is a Honduran asylum-seeker who died while trying to cross the border. A parking lot at night is a setting in which many women have learned to feel unsafe, to hurry about their business with heightened awareness that any strange figure approaching may have sinister intentions. Thank you for performing for us. Subscribe: http://bit.ly/1lq9aEQTour the Ryman: http://bit.ly/tourtherymanVisit the Ryman Calendar: http://bit.ly/rymanconcertsAbout the Ryman Auditorium:Established in 1982 as the Union Gospel Tabernacle and renamed for the visionary who constructed it, Captain Tom G. Ryman, the Ryman Auditorium is a National Historic Landmark and cultural epicenter of Nashville, TN. And these guys are in their 70s and 80s, and it was very much like hanging out with lots of granddads. But I think folks forget that access to abortion and reproductive healthcare is not just about terminating unwanted pregnancy. GROSS: So one of the ways you ended up becoming a songwriter as well as a singer and musician was that Billy Joe Shaver heard you play. The tracks release If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires. Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. My focus stays strong I can work on a song for six or seven hours in one day, and not get bored or tired of it.. He still cant seem to notice when the dishwashers unloaded and all the dishes are put away. Yeah without you asking. And Bob Wills was, like, the father of Western Swing, which combined country music and jazz. And then in my mind I thought, well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? But finding a voice now and sharing their stories now is as good as any time. Moon, in all your splendor. You can just say Im crazy. And he was there for 25 years. Interracial marriages cant happen. Privacy rights are going to be gone. And after he did his time, he didnt say anything about it. You can call me serious trouble. The song is called Hawk For The Dove.. So heres my guest, Amanda Shires, and Jason Isbell singing her song, The Problem.. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. We want to hear it. Shires wrote the song a few years ago and originally imagined it as a conversation between several women, but revamped it to feature her collaborator and husband. Shires, who was touring with the Texas Playboys when she was still a teenager, has a sense of responsibility thats been good for him, he says. And then and the words are amazing and always brought me a smile. Lets start with a track from the new album. If youre just joining us, my guest is Amanda Shires, and her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. This is FRESH AIR. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. I know I can take it like a man. Shires plays fiddle in her husband Jason Isbells band, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. I didnt want to do more damage. People are still going to get abortions, and were going to have to keep peoples secrets, and house people, and try to do the best we can. You had an abortion. GROSS: Thats Empty Cups from Amanda Shires new album, Take It Like A Man. Thats such a great song, Amanda. Elizaveta Porodina/Courtesy of the artist Jason Isbell performs in Gulf Shores, Alabama. Every one of them except for me survived. I would like to challenge other folks who have platforms to actually use them. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. Live Nation also announced a vaccination requirement for employees entering events, venues or offices, which will take effect October 4. Our business and our industry is about uniting people, and vaccines are one of the greatest tools for making sure that everyone can continue to enjoy live music together, CEO Michael Rapino wrote to the companys employees. And nobody would let me in, but I sat there anyway. You can say I lost my grip. I said, itd be cool if I was The Highwomen or maybe had a band The Highwomen. Trump Melts Down Over Murdoch Admitting Fox Lied About Election Fraud, If you say those things out loud, it makes a difference. (Playing guitar, singing) Like a common loon, I started hearing birds, birdsong everywhere. GROSS: Amanda Shires, its been such a pleasure to talk with you. But a lot of times when youre growing up and taught what how to be successful and how to be to survive in the world as a woman with a career and all this stuff and probably young many young kids are taught this. We have to work hard now to mobilize and help people vote. And Im coming for you like a hawk for the dove. Me and @JasonIsbell RCA studio B making a musical recording. So since they are personal songs, you had to decide to say that. The majority of people are in favor of womens reproductive rights and health; its others were trying to get to. WebBEHIND THE SCENES with Amanda Shires | Backstage at the Ryman Presented by Nissan | Ryman Auditorium 11,820 views Jan 1, 2019 92 Dislike Share Ryman Auditorium We just couldnt get along. On forming the all-female country super-group The Highwomen. Amanda Shires. They all feel good, he says of making records, and they all feel really bad when youre working, simultaneously.. 825 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10019, WNET is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. And sometimes, you know, you can, like, cup your hands and drink water from them or you could cup your hands and I dont know. I mean, only just now nine months later, interestingly enough have I returned to having normal periods. Her study essentially proves that when folks cant have an abortion, it affects their mental health, their economic standing, their overall well-being. Not saying something is not helping. Shed been learning to play classical music on the violin at school when her music teacher introduced her to some of Frankie McWhorters fiddle tunes. NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) Three months after an emergency heart transplant, Grammy-nominated keyboardist, producer, songwriter and artist Peter Levin Life cant help but interfere. They arent helping. So lets hear a little bit of that song. I would like to think that fans can hold their role models and their favorite musicians accountable. Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. GROSS: Lawrence Rothman produced your new album. Her new album is Take It Like a Man. The Highwomen were tapped as last-minute fill ins, though founding member Amanda Shires was unable to attend as she continues to recover from an emergency And but I think for the players in the band, they took me seriously as a player. SHIRES: But I like it because I like to imagine like, if he was alive and I got to play this for him, I would be singing Im your Amanda. I think a lot of women are born healers and nurturers. AL.com spoke to Isbell last September about when he decided implementing these COVID restrictions at his shows was the right thing to do, how this stance has affected the relationship with some of his fans, what its like to finally hit the road and play again and what it will take for Alabama to have a change of heart on getting vaccinated. SHIRES: Yeah. The sound of silence rings in every room. And we would be quiet so that she wouldnt get in trouble because it was a lot then to be a single mom and deal with the difference in pay for men versus women. The subject isnt talked about enough, Shires says. SHIRES: I mean OK Im going to call her up after this, too. So she did daytime job. Its no fun but well be alright.. Yet, Isbell noted, the problem is that many of the venue owners are getting so much pushback from some of the governors of certain states who want to kowtow to their political base.. And this is the iteration of the band Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys, which got their start in they were most famous in the 30s and 40s and 50s. The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time And Empty Cups wasnt even the hardest one for me to put on there. And thank you for putting up with me. I believe thats when that that became not an option. SHIRES: Sure. It was love at first listen. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. I was like, Thats what I want to do, because you play this song and then you get to improvise you just play what you feel within the chord. Im your man. So either you have surgery or I think you die. And while I I know the voice that I have is what I have. The 100 Best Albums of 2022. The way she relaxes into low notes on that last line makes it sound far more like an unembarrassed confession than a complaint. She has performed as a member of the Texas Playboys, Thrift Store Cowboys, and Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit, as well as in a duo with Rod Picott. During the #MeToo moment, much emphasis has been rightly placed on the need for women to guard themselves against the unrestrained appetites of male perpetrators. Its just like you would expect, but theres real, scientific proof for it now. GROSS: You know, your husband plays on this album, but the songs are about a bad period in your marriage. My best hope is that people continue to get angrier and that the folks who have been fighting so hard for so long, and are already tired, find some strength to keep fighting and also to mobilize others, especially youth, along the way. Im going to change the subject here. During "Break Out the Champagne," Shires wryly relates an account of a female friend who was dumped by a dullard, only to realize that he'd never really satisfied her anyway: "I'm rock and rock and roll, and you're golf." When she paints a picture of motherhood in the subdued jangle-pop number "Charms," she doesn't dwell on its oft-idealized and sentimentalized facets. And hes saying, you know, basically that hes going to support her and hes there for her. SHIRES: Oh, right, in Alcatraz. SHIRES: I didnt know I was going to work it into a song until I got to the to writing it. Lets get back to my interview with singer-songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. Because thats not how I go into songwriting. And I was really into that. And he said, well, you can always put it on there and just choose not to answer questions about it and, you know or you can he was pushing for me to leave Fault Lines on there because it is a good song, as he said. Shes not really a rock & roll kid, for lack of a better term. Michael Schmelling. Despite the many questions as to why she was undergoing the procedure which she described as having "cells removed" despite trolls labeling her a "baby killer" Shires wrote at the time, "The reasons that I chose to have an abortion are personal, and they are mine." It's a sentiment that Shires has echoed many times since. I could just trust based on how Leonard Cohen did all that work for us. Jason Isbell will put his tour on hold after announcing he tested positive with for COVID-19. GROSS: So that was the Highwomen, which is a song performed by the supergroup The Highwomen, which was co-founded by my guest, Amanda Shires, and Brandi Carlile. Its you, Brandi Carlile, Natalie Hemby, Maren Morris. Learn more about his tour. Home to the Grand Ole Opry from 1943-1974, the Ryman earned the moniker \"Mother Church of Country Music\" as the genres of country and bluegrass developed on its stage and found a national audience on radio and television. And so you know Ill say, I dont know, but no ones going to be asking me. Lets get back to the interview I recorded last week with singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires. And how come you didnt know before? And how did you figure out what you wanted your point of view to be, you know, like, who the song would be about? It took Dave Cobb and it took Brandi and then it took Natalie [Hemby] and Maren Morris. GROSS: Without him asking? SHIRES: I dont know that well, I dont know that I was going to leave or that Jason was going to leave. But I just got up on a stage and took the fiddle and started playing it. I tried so hard to make myself clear. GROSS: So we have to take another short break here, so let me reintroduce you. 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