The whole matter of a throwing motion which has been criticized for being too elongated as well as the occasional delivery that doesnt produce a spiral simply isnt a big deal. Try a week on us. Jimmys going to go play some good football for someone.. Ironically, if you watch Jimmy Garoppolothrow,his version of that is so extreme. Employers can change that. The good ones are obsessed with that and it never stops.. The pandemic-altered 2020 college football season was unusual for players nationwide, but few had it quite like North Dakota State quarterback Trey Lance. Lynch said hes been watching Lances progress from his second-story office window. Tom Brady has tweaked his throwing motion every year for the last 20 years, Shanahan said. However, his accuracy while rolling out was pedestrian, with a couple of misfires to tight ends. He appeared to have a more compact, less over-the-top motion on many of his throws, although head coach Kyle Shanahan said his mechanics hadnt significantly changed. Most Californians can put off filing taxes until Oct. 16 but should they? After the hip opens and generates torque, the arm follows and doesnt have to work as hard. However, Tom Pelissero reported that Dr. Keith Meister, who will perform the procedure, recommended it be postponed due to inflammation remaining in the San Francisco 49ers quarterback's arm. He looked like a man amongst boys as just a redshirt freshman, but his opponents for the most part are not NFL players. While theres still a lot to be developed in his game, theres legit hype around Trey Lance and based on traits alone, hes going to hear his name early whenever he decides to declare for the draft. Everybody has their opinion on it. He and Purdy became close friends. Trey Lances ceiling is extremely high. Eric Branch covers the 49ers for The San Francisco Chronicle. Lance had runs of 26, 11, 54 (touchdown), 33, 10 and 14 (touchdown) yards, combining a bruising style with breakaway speed. Trey Lance taking ownership of 49ers quarterback position, not obsessing over mechanics 49ers Lance hasnt overhauled his throwing motion and doesnt think its And Im watching Trey out there taking drops. Asked by a reporter if he would spend the coming months improving his throwing motion, Lance said he would not, focusing on other, unnamed parts of his game. I feel like Im in a really good spot, said Lance. While video of Lance may be limited for now, well get a much better look in late July once training camp starts. Its too long a motion. Trey Lance running the first-team offense and starting in Week 1 like he did last season, and (2.) He appeared to have a Had it been a game or an open practice with fans in attendance, there would have been an audible buzz, because it was one of those moments that was perfect for the kind of overreaction that comes naturally with the most important position in professional sports. And thats not even the entire list of missing star power from the 49ers first open-to-the-media offseason practice Tuesday. Lance had two notable, deeper completions to wide receivers Tuesday in which he showcased his arm strength. I dont care what level of football it is, its almost impossible to do better than that. Try a week on us. The 49ers originally thought Purdys recovery would last roughly six months and hed be back in full for the start of training camp in late July. He could flick the ball 65 yards down field without a hitch. Lance tends to throw a football the way one would throw a fastball. You play with your fundamentals and improve the plays that you have.. I get reports, obviously, but my eyes tell me a lot, Lynch said. Instead, it was the first day of a mandatory three-day minicamp and the isolated instance came and went. QB Nate Sudfeld, the presumptive backup, completed 12 of 14 passes and had the best throw of the day, a perfectly placed deep pass to Turner for a touchown of 50-plus yards. Youve got to hone in on getting better. He also made two starts in Weeks 5 and 17 when Jimmy Garoppolo was injured. Lynch noted that Griese was instrumental to Purdys rookie year success. Speaking to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, an opposing team's offensive coach pointed out that Lance's throwing motion looked "wonky" from what he saw in 2021. He overthrows a lot of passes and struggles put enough touch on the ball. He spent the season away from his family, which Lynch indicated was difficult and had him contemplating whether he wanted to continue in his current role. Hes not ready. His throwing motion is crisp and compact, and it allows him to generate consistent velocity. If you feel like donating and want access to some early blog releases and exclusive breakdown content or to help us keep things running, you can visit our Patreon pagehere. I think it was in a little bit of a weird spot last year, Lance said. Lance has spoken with Steve Young this offseason and Youngs message was to be himself. 3 overall pick to the San Francisco 49ers. Speaking to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, an opposing team's offensive coach pointed out that Lance's throwing motion looked "wonky" from what he saw in 2021. There has been a lot of discussion about Lance's throwing motion since he entered the NFL. The 22-year-old even addressed it during a press conference after a mandatory minicamp practice last week. Its going to be exciting to see Shanahans playbook reach full potential with a mobile quarterback that can throw it down the Field . Still, Lance is able to keep his front shoulder stable and close so that his hips open up first. With a rare blend of strength and speed, he reminds me athletically of Josh Allen and Cam Newton. Jerry McDonald is a Bay Area News Group sports general assignment writer and columnist for The Mercury News and East Bay Times with more than 40 years of experience. Then came the Missouri Valley Football Conferences decision to play football in the spring. Again, Rodgers doesnt always throw like this, but when he does the ball path is shorter because of his pre-pass position. Matt Barrows is a senior writer for The Athletic covering the 49ers. Meister, the Texas Rangers team physician, thought there was still too much inflammation in the joint, which resulted in the operation being tentatively rescheduled for early next week. Klint will replace pass game coordinator Bobby Slowik, whom the Texans recently hired as their offensive coordinator. In this image from a training camp clip posted by the 49ers social media team, you can see Lance dip the ball. Brian Rothmuller/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images. Thats the degree to which the figurative hairs have to be split when deciding on a franchise passer, especially in the case of the Broncos, who would be required to give up additional draft capital to select him. Thats a big-money corner so those are the guys that you make your money going against, Aiyuk said when asked about the inspiration for his video study. could be eligible for a share of $104 million. He knows his stuff.. The 22-year-old even addressed it during a press conference after a mandatory minicamp practice last week. While I think his coaches might hold their breath sometimes when he tries to run over defenders, to me it shows that hes willing to do whatever it takes to win. If you liked this post make sure to subscribe below and let us know what you think. WebTrey Lance of the San Francisco 49ers on the sideline after throwing a 76-yard touchdown during the game against the Green Bay Packers at Levi's Stadium on August 12, 2022 in Santa Clara, California. Get premium, high resolution news photos at Getty Images Lance completed 17 of 20 passes, primarily on short, underneath routes, with 12 of his completions going to running backs or tight ends. 28 Reply [deleted] 1 yr. ago [removed] Reply Drodman93 Joe Staley And it begins, San Francisco 49ers general manager John Lynch, speaking with reporters at the NFL Scouting Combine on Tuesday, provided an update on quarterback Trey Lance. Head coach Kyle Shanahan was asked There will be a learning curve at the NFL level for Lance, however. For a first-year starter, stuff like this is totally normal but still has to be talked about. Throwing more fluidly isnt just about release time; it affects accuracy as well. Coach Kyle hes got some smart routes. Whats your rhythm? But I think the way he carries himself, the way he holds his head, the way nothing ever rattles him, thats his key feature and I think that will carry him a long way.. Lances 0.42 is a bit on the slower side, but dipping the ball isnt the culprit. Lance simply took what the defense gave him and avoided mistakes, connected on a few big plays, utilized his mobility and put together successful drives in a game decided by halftime. Lance looked comfortable on the five snaps he took from under center (16 out of the shotgun) that resulted in passing attempts and was smooth on play-action fakes. Lance was a 1-year starter in high school in a Wing-T offense that only asked him to throw the ball 104 times. : #GBvsSF on NBC: https://t.co/KgHDqDkg0d pic.twitter.com/zl8KXCTham. I like where hes at right now.. Those events will reshape the San Francisco 49ers roster and the other 31 NFL squads. It was clear the North Dakota State coaching staff knew exactly how to scheme a numbers advantage for Lance in the running game, and he was rarely, if ever, tackled by the first defender to meet him. Yeah Im more worried about the ability to read a defense, that seems a lot harder to grasp. To time a quarterbacks mechanics, the clock usually starts when a quarterback begins to separate the ball from his off-hand and ends when the ball leaves his hand. The Supreme Court gutted a California worker law. This makes no sense to me. The performance featured several outstanding plays, some only a few college quarterbacks can make, but his numbers appeared better than the game film showed. Arm angles change here and there, Shanahan said. Proper sequencing allows the hips to open toward the target first, followed by the arm so that the quarterback is generating power with his body and not mainly through the arm. He could keep that pre-pass a little bit more neutral because he was relaxed in the carriage and then it would be like up here and then it would be down here right, and so my only criticism would be if were gonna do that, lets just start down here and keep it down there and then it just matches, Hewlett said. Fields doesnt always process the game as fast as necessary, but his pedigree, arm strength and athleticism are all positives. SANTA CLARA Trey Lance rolled to his right Tuesday and cut loose with a high-velocity wobbler that eventually fell harmless to the ground. When you climb up the ladder and face tougher competition, you wont be able to get away with missing throws by being wild. Due to his mobility, there will be plenty of chances to take some deep shots off of play-action that might not necessarily be the game plan for North Dakota State but will be in the NFL. Or Fred Warner. Jimmy did a decent job for the Niners ,and I wish him the best, but He will never reach Elite level due to his physical limitations . Dedeaux did note, however, that Lance would be returning to Orange County after the 49ers spring practices are complete. The quarterback took to social media to ask for "a few college receivers" for (presumably) a Bay Area throwing session, starting on Friday (h/t Grant Cohn of SI) Where are your feet? There has been a lot of discussion about Lance's throwing motion since he entered the NFL. When he dipped the ball, the ball didnt have to travel very far. The team belongs to Lance, and while coach Kyle Shanahan said he expected to see Garoppolo at practice in training camp when healthy if no trade materializes, surely thats not the preferred way to go. Lynch also acknowledged that he texted Tom Brady, who on Feb. 1 announced his retirement, the second year in a row hes done so. Questions came up about Lances mechanics Tuesday and it was a matter he wanted to address. A little over nine months later against Central Arkansas, Lance looked like a top prospect who had not played in an actual game in months and felt the pressure of all eyes being on him. Shanahan wanted it that way when it came to the media as well. As he starts to get healthy, Lance has taken any reworking of his throwing motion off the table, which probably wont be received well by by fans or the front office. Or Nick Bosa. Who would have guessed it? But, no, I see him about the same.. Heres why. He has flashed his raw talents, but other things need to be polished. Still the club found a handful of highlights to string together, including a couple shots of QB Trey Lance making throws. The groups biggest task will be to get Lance, who lacked experience in college and has started only four NFL games in two seasons, ready for the regular season. He was a reporter with The Sacramento Bee for 19 years, four of them as a Metro reporter. This doesnt mean the ball has to be completely separated from his off-hand. Scott Adams faces 'consequence culture' as U.S. newspapers drop Dilbert, Tom Cruise's 'ditching' of Suri showcased by Judd Apatow's 'co-parenting' joke, ex-Scientology exec says. Make sure to follow us on Instagram @weekly_spiral and twitter@weeklyspiralfor updates when we post and release our podcasts. Lances 17th and final start was, in some ways, the natural conclusion to a career that in many ways has been unparalleled. He is working as much on building relationships with his teammates. One of the most common critiques of young quarterbacks is that they dip the ball. This refers to the quarterback dropping the ball to waist level as he loads up before releasing the ball. He expects to be full-go in time for organized team activities (OTAs) in May. You know the defense, they know the offense, so you cant really go for the big plays. Player and team photos used with permission from, 49ers QB Trey Lance responds to criticisms about his throwing mechanics. Part of what makes Lance such a difficult evaluation is his FCS schedule. As Hewlett explained, thats beneficial for sequencing. I was a Griese, 47, eventually decided to return and will join an offensive staff that includes brothers Klint and Klay Kubiak. As for the minutiae of delivering the ball, Shanahan sees it as a constant process over time rather than something dramatic in one offseason. Of Lances 21 throws, 11 were either dump-offs to a running back after an initial read or a quick pass outside to a receiver. 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Lance underwent two surgeries. It simply goes straight back and forward, oftentimes like a sidearm motion a second baseman does when throwing to first. Treys going to take a couple of weeks off, and then go down to Southern California, work with some guys throwing the ball, isolate on that, just his throwing motion, working on that all the time, which I would say 80 percent of the quarterbacks in this league do that.. Are we all forgetting how incredible Fields was against Clemson in the College Football Playoff? He did nothing to suggest the 49ers made a poor investment: Ward didnt allow a completion and broke up a pass from Lance that was intended for Jennings. Lynch wasnt nearly as precise Tuesday, saying there are a variety of time frames.. About that missing star power from Tuesdays voluntary practice: Shanahan said both Warner and Kittle were dealing with minor lower-body injuries, fullback Kyle Juszczyk had a personal day and Williams, Bosa and Samuel would attend the mandatory minicamp in mid-June. The plan is for Meister to examine Purdy later this week in Arizona, where Purdy lives and the Rangers hold their spring training. There havent been any major changes in the way Lance throws the ball, nor are there expected to be in the future. However, if you watch some of the best, most efficient throwers of all time, a lot of them have what could be considered elongated throwing motions that dip the ball. He has a tendency to be a little wild, which is tough to imagine since he completed 66% of his passes. Or George Kittle. As soon as he begins to move his hand to start the process of throwing the ball, the timer starts. Perhaps the release is a little bit quicker, but based on the short video above and a look at some throws from last season, there isnt anything noticeable on video. In fact, the one turnover he had all season, a fumble, happened in the first quarter of the first game of the season. Thats why hes throwing better at 40 than he did at 30. Aiyuk said he reviewed video of Ward, who spent his four seasons with the Chiefs, from Kansas Citys win over the Cowboys and Pro Bowl wide receivers CeeDee Lamb and Amari Cooper last year. 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But Purdy has said theres a possibility hell need a hybrid procedure that is closer to a full reconstruction known in baseball circles as Tommy John surgery that takes pitchers off the mound for a year. The first person that Brock would come off and talk to was Trey, Lynch said. He graduated from San Jose State University with a BA degree in journalism. https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/26/49ers-otas-trey-lance-throwing-motion/, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Yes, that does seem a bit premature. Some of that has been fueled by comments from Shanahan. Montana State initially pressured with three, and as Lance moved to his left in the pocket, he eluded a linebacker trying to clean up the play. To his credit, he doesnt do this motion every time but it happens more often than not. The longtime NFL quarterback had been a broadcaster since 2009, and last season was his first as an assistant coach. That limited the impact his mobility had in the passing game. He will get his chance this year though, as the Bison take on Oregon in week 1 (assuming the season happens, fingers crossed) in a must watch game. The delay will undoubtedly move back the timeline for his recovery at least a little bit. In fact, if you miss this backstroke part, the layback doesnt happen naturally. So does the fact the 49ers always figured it would take Lance time to develop. The 22-year-old signal-caller lacked experience in college and has started only four NFL games in The usefulness of Lances mobility in the running game was a different story. Trey Lance, in theory, would have just been in college for three years if he declares after the season and not nearly as polished of a thrower as Wentz was. Lance, meanwhile, resumed throwing from full dropbacks last week and is expected to be fully cleared before OTA practices begin in May. Lance appears to have changed his throwing motion. In fact, dipping the ball is part of loading up to generate power. He was sacked twice (2.25 seconds and lost fumble on a five-man blitz, 2.74 seconds on a seven-man blitz) and threw his first and only collegiate interception (play-action fake looking for a tight end up the right seam locked onto his target for too long). Lances next snap will come for the NFL team that believes in him most. Sign up for the Niners Wire newsletter to get our top stories in your inbox every morning. Coach Jimbo Fisher tapped into Monds athleticism (1,608 career rushing yards) and helped him improve as a decision-maker (three interceptions on 297 attempts in 2020). Training camp reports have not been kind to Lance, nitpicking at his throwing motion and completion percentage during practices. Get Morning Report and other email newsletters. . Coming off a sensational redshirt freshman season 16-0 record, 42 passing/rushing touchdowns, no interceptions and an FCS championship the nearly 6-foot-4 Lance was zooming up draft boards because of his big arm and untapped upside. Lance put together a strong effort by completing 15-of-21 passes for 223 yards and three touchdowns and running for 64 yards and two touchdowns. A graduate of UCLA, he's won nine national APSE awards in various divisions, including recognition in 2018 for a breaking-news story on the arrest of 49ers linebacker Reuben Foster. Lance kept his eyes downfield, one of his better qualities to extend plays, and threw back across the field to the right sideline in 6.62 seconds to hit Williams for the catch-and-run touchdown. Follow us for breaking news and latest updates: Thanks for subscribing! Shanahan outlined his offseason plans for Lance during his own press conference on Tuesday and it includes some mechanical work once Lance has enjoyed some rest and relaxation. To be an efficient thrower, quarterbacks dont need to eliminate the dip. Mills has an NFL-ready arm and regularly worked the middle of the field at Stanford. As he starts to get healthy, Lance has taken any reworking of his throwing motion off the table, which probably wont be received well by by fans or the front office. He connected with Jauan Jennings, who made an outstretched, over-the-middle grab on a post. True, but Wentz was also at NDSU for five years before getting drafted and spent his rookie season experiencing a lot of growing pains. It wasnt anything close to real football. Critics mainly talk about his dip and elongated throwing motion, but some of the all-time most efficient throwers dip the ball. He's stated publicly that Garoppolo may not get traded even when he gets cleared from shoulder surgery. Lance and Fields' natural arm strength is on a completely different level. 45-yard throw, pressure in his face, throwing from the far hash and Trey Lance has the ball on an absolute rope. 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If you give him any space and he trusts it, hes going to zip it in. pizza favorite shuts down after 13 years, plus more closings, Your Privacy Choices (Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads). Second-year 49ers QB Trey Lance has one of the most widely scrutinized throwing motions in recent memory. He finished 15-of-30 for 149 yards, two touchdowns and one interception and added 143 yards and two TDs on 15 carries. The question facing the Broncos, who would likely need to trade up from No. Hufanga was the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year in his final season at USC, but slipped to the fifth round last year because of his just-OK speed and extensive injury history. Right now, here in Feburary, Id almost be willing to bet money Garoppolo is on the roster for the 2022 season. Bay Area faces another round of storms. He just fit one in on me today, Ward said. The practices are not padded and theres no contact allowed so there isnt a lot to glean from the on-field work. 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