Connect with the reporter at patrick.riley@naplesnews.com or on Twitter @PatJRiley. Most church experiences, when it comes to a new Senior Pastor, are just that, a celebration and a time of looking forward with hope and optimism to what God has for the future. But we are not merely ambassadors. Hayes Wicker was the pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples (Florida) for 27 years. Takeaway: The problems here illustrate how important biblical models of church governance and judicial process are. Publisher Log-in And guess what? If this were a Calvary Chapel organization, or any other offshoot of Chuck Smiths piracy, no one would be surprised. First, there are blacks who strenuously object to books like Woke Church, as well as intersectionality, and reparations for slavery. Similarly, an article in The Grio asked, Did a Florida church not hire a pastor because he was Black? And Christianity Today stated, Black Pastor Candidate Withdraws After Controversial Vote at SBC Megachurch.. Even Jesus said so much when he talked a man who started building a tower without counting the cost. In his quote-tweet, Hayes said Roberson was in his student ministry while he was a youth pastor in Chicago. Yet despite all thats happened, Wicker said, I pray people would not use this to come against megachurches or seeing all committees as bad., Similarly, Caudill stated, First Baptist Naples still has potential to be used greatly by God. Naples Christmas Celebration. Sources close to the church administration have said they fear raising any issues that might bring adverse consequences to them, their children, or their grandchildren. First Baptist Church Naples, she said,"is not a racist church by any stretch of the imagination. All of the events need to be understood in the context of the overriding event and the church governance that permitted this to happen. But a question and answer session with Hayes and his wife held by the church on Oct. 24 offers some glimpses into the opposition that built against the prospective new senior pastor and the apparent rift between church leadership and some in the congregation. It seems rather patronizing to minorities to assert that every minority persons ideas must be legitimate because the propounder is of a certain colour. Location Berean Baptist Church is an independent Baptist church located in the beautiful community of Naples, Florida, just south of Ft. Myers. For 27 years Hayes Wicker and his family faithfully devoted their lives to Gods calling in ministry at FBCN. Wicker called the allegations appalling., We reached out to Boone, specifically asking about the allegations mentioned in the video, but he did not respond. The views expressed in any video or live stream presented on our website may not necessarily be the views of the CWM owners and staff. On the surface, Marcus Hayes is a highly recommended pastor who is seemingly qualified for the role. political and theological statements and his lack of experience leading a Ungodly treatment of a Godly man and his entire family, not to mention those whose leadership and dedication to the Lord was well-known and long-standing. Dorrill near the end of a Nov. 2 service told the congregation that "the integrity of our election last weekend was compromised. This ban prevented him from seeing his granddaughter perform in a play being put on at the churchs school, First Baptist Academy. The group adds that national leaders within FBC Napless denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), supported the churchs leadership and furthered the racism charge. (Auxanos founder, Will Mancini, also serves as director of consulting for Lifeway, the publishing division of the SBC.). But key conferences and key organizations had a vested interest in sidestepping orthodoxy and demonizing any who pointed that out. Such a loving bunch, arent they?!). "They are reaching their community and showing the care and love that the community desperately needs." Photos courtesy of FBC Naples Hearts With Hands It also appears that the SBC concluded too soon who was in the right. SUNDAY, Dec 11 (7pm) Kenneth Bonnett, pastor of communications for the church, declined to offer specifics about the church's allegations, saying "it would not be proper for us to share that content openly.". Dorrill said at the Nov. 2 service thatdisciplinary action "towards church members who have violated our church covenant by causing dissension, disruption and spreading of misinformation have been taken and are underway. To donate. Of course they did. Items. I dont think you mean ill will, but just want to make you aware of how poorly comments like that tend to land. Just fill out this form and let us know your needs. Other parts of the email laid out concerns the group had with Hayes' tweets about books that deal with race and religion and questioned whether he had the necessary experience to take the post as senior pastor. First Naples || Livestream - Streaming live from Naples, FL. My heart goes out to his family. It may not be sorted out down here but everyone has to give an account, and especially those in leadership positions of the Lords Church for whom He died. Melisa do you attend First Baptist ? "Marcus Hayes, a highly respected and a well-qualified pastor, remains the man that we believe God has called to be our next pastor," Dorrill said to a standing ovation from the congregation. Read the letter from the church to the Southern Baptist Convention, question and answer session with Hayes and his wife, Read the letter from First Baptist to church members regarding voting results, fatal shooting of a black security guard by a white police officer, Police release name of cop who killed black security guard who was corralling a gunman, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Pastor John David Edie, who wrote the open letter to the SBC on behalf of leaders at FBC Naples, alleging racism, resigned in early December. (I)t seems from social media posts that, with no investigation, some convention leaders have chosen to believe this narrative, Caudill wrote. However, leaked We reached out to Dorrill, but he refused to answer any questions. That's why Hayes was not officially approved, when in past years he would have been. Just like there are women who are pro-Gloria Steinem feminists, and there are women who are not fans of Gloria, black people are capable of holding differing opinions too. And it is must never be carried out with retribution in mind, but always with the hope of restoration. hating even the garment polluted by the flesh (Jude 23). He didnt return multiple phone calls and e-mails. Almost unbelievable saga of incompetence. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Jemel Roberson was in my student ministry while I was a youth pastor in Chicago. It also shapes my needs, which tend to go forgotten or overlooked if you refuse to see I am a black woman. Christians should model justice and love to the world. First Baptist Church - Naples 3000 Orange Blossom Dr Naples FL 34109 (239) 597-6057 Claim this business (239) 597-6057 Website More Directions Advertisement We are so thankful for the godly staff who serve the Lord and lead our FBCNaples family! The Story Of First Baptist Church Naples is disturbing and alarming, but it is meant to be an inspiration. What Happens Now? The actions described in this article, which by the way are just the tip of the iceberg, were unloving, ungodly, and unbecoming of pastors charged with shepherding Gods flock. We are so glad you've chosen to join us. Marcus Hayes, an African-American who is on staff at Biltmore Church in the Asheville, North Carolina area, was the candidate. Your Connection Portal. Masters of Divinity in Christian Apologetics, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary (The church publishes an annual directory with member email addresses.). Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Giving. God has to be deeply saddened by this, knowing that so much more could be done. Well Hello!!! The day after excommunicating the 18 members, FBC Naples lay leadership and pastoral staff sent an open letter to the SBC, accusing some who didnt vote for Hayes, whos a member of the SBC Executive Committee, of racism. Church discipline for dissenting members was greeted with wild applause. I can tell you I am not a racist. It only becomes a problem if you think my worth is different because of it. Thats what REALLY happened. In the tweet, the attorney, Lee Merritt, wrote in part that investigators claim "all the shooter saw was black" and said that was "exactly the problem.". Budget Crisis at FBC Naples? But I dont see how the spirit of God can move among those people, unless they are willing to understand what has happened and admit that what they have done is absolutely atrocious, ungodly, unjust, and even in violation of their own bylaws.. And thats shepherding many hundreds of people over many years., In its open letter to the SBC, FBC Naples lay leaders and staff wrote that they know racial prejudice contributed to Marcus Hayess failed vote because of the campaign that started just days before by a few disgruntled people in our church., Presumably, the campaign to which the letter is referring is an email that was sent from the Concerned Members to those who had signed the petition shortly before the Hayes vote, requesting a special business meeting. To those who are part of the Group of Concerned FBNC Members, the church's allegations of racism have no standing. In November, just weeks after the church excommunicated 18 members, John Garippa, a longtime FBC Naples member who led two popular Bible Studies at FBC Naples, left the church. ", Two members of the counting committee, he said, have admitted to leaking confidential early voting results from Saturday night to a lay leader in the church "who then used that information, we believe, to compromise the process.". No, Again. Until this happens FBCN will be a former great ministry. Select the event you would like to attend below: FRIDAY, Dec 9 (7pm) NO RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE. (The video is now private and requires a password to view.). Blake Crawford and former deacon, Mike Dolan, said they were also suspended around that time. SATURDAY, Dec 10 (4pm) NO RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE. Any copyrighted material displayed or referenced is done under the doctrine of fair use. So is my wife. Only love. Yet, thats what multiple sources have alleged is happening to them. The message at FBCN is clear: get along or get out. According to sources, Wicker wanted a long period of transition to the new leadership, with even an overlap to help the transition process. @Bernie Lutchman you are so correct. We believe all matters of life should be subjected to the Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16). As a seasonal member of FBCN during the events you cover here I can share how troubling this is. (Hayes this month took his first senior pastor position at a church in Texas.). The so-called dissenters had issues with what the church was doing WELL BEFORE Marcus Hayes arrived. So for now we will go to Tampa & enjoy Church there, as no wish to be seen to support incompetence. The process did not adhere to or reflect any biblical model. ", Although church leaders don't believe that all who voted"no" did so based on race, Dorrill said,"it is undeniable that race played a part in the final days leading up to this election.". In 2001, Dorrill pled guilty to racketeering conspiracy charges in connection with the Stadium Naples corruption scandal. Yet despite all thats happened, Wicker said, I pray people would not use this to come against megachurches or seeing all committees as bad.. If not please hold your comments. We likewise contacted SBC President J.D. Wicker spent 27 years as pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples. The church by-laws allow for the expulsion of members without consulting the entire church body. I guess thats why this slanderous information is labeled as commentary. It provides an identity for its most passionate acolytes. "It seems all cops ever see is black," the attorney continued. I was shocked that they would make this immediate, Wicker said. By Jessica Pigg Last updated Nov 2, 2021 NAPLES Since Alan Brumback's call as lead pastor and his arrival in mid-September, First Baptist Church in Naples has seen baptismal waters stirred every weekend, having celebrated 42 baptisms in October and already scheduling another 15 in November. Soon, one way or another there will be a woke pastor in the pulpit of FBCN. concerned with factors other than racism, such as Marcus Hayes And thats ok. God created me too. "Is that what the gospel is all about?". Regardless of what specific concerns were held, its important to know that 1) no evidence of genuine racism on the part of those holding them has surfaced, and 2) the efforts these members made to ask questions and express reservations were not taken seriously. Dorrill also serves on FBC Naples finance committee. Multiple sources claiming to be from FBC Naples have reached out to Pulpit & Pen and Reformation Charlotte and we are currently assessing the accounts of these individual. Member of the Evangelical Theological Society In November, Caudill sent a letter to several prominent SBC leaders, including President Greear and SEBTS President Danny Akin, urging them to retract their statements supporting the racism narrative offered by FBC Naples. I just want to point out that when you say things like I am in a biracial marriage, it sounds a LOT like I have a black friend. Trust me, that gets you little more than eye-rolling. I know that can seem like a simple concept, but it seems to be forgotten when the well a black person disagrees with it! argument is used. FBC Napless accusations and treatment of Pastor Wicker upset dozens of church members. I lived it. The final vote was 81 percent in favor and 19 percent against. For the church's leadership, "it exposed a sickness in what we characterize as a cancer within our fellowship," he continued in the letter, which also asked for forgiveness from Hayes and his wife and "any other person who has been offended, hurt, or damaged by the outcome" of the vote. Ready to start serving? What have we done, indeed? Give Online. The dissenters, and their surrogates, have done a good job (whether they realize it or not) of explaining why Hayes was rejected and much of it is deeply racially tinged, including: Hayes rejection of the notion of racial colorblindness, Hayes support of Eric Masons book Woke Church and intersectionality, Hayes support of slavery reparations for descendants of African American slaves, and Hayes alleged statements in support of more black leadership in SBC member organizations. At the same time, some members were concerned about some of his social media posts that might indicate support for a pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ Democrat presidential candidate, his endorsement of the problematic book Woke Church, his blocking some FBCN members on his social media platforms, and other theological, political, and administrative issues. The church did not hold a reception to honor Wickers decades of ministry, nor was Wicker permitted to address the congregation. Also, the concept of colorblindness is nice in theory but is biologically impossible (unless you are colorblind). Gretchen Church, who said on Twitter that she has been a member of First Baptistfor more than 17 years, tweeted that racism had nothing to do with voting. Visit: firstnaples.org/media. Voicemails left for Hayes this week were not returned, and Neil Dorrill, chairman of the pastoral search team, referred questions to Bonnett. The church also launched a schoolFirst Baptist Academy. Go. It noted that Hayes had unfriended or blocked several people who had signed the petition on his social media accounts. "There are no terms to describe what has happened here other than sin. I read about this over at The Wartburg Watch. 11,847 were here. Boy oh boy. weekend the congregation failed This happened just three days after the church vote concerning Marcus Hayes. I am sickened by the way he was treated and am grateful for this exposure. But am I not allowed to vote based on my opinion without being called a racist? This is a clear case of men doing what they can to build their own kingdoms, not Jesus and to manipulate things into their own will being done, again not Jesus. First Naples glorifies God by being a multigenerational, multiethnic, multiplying church. I attended the Saturday evening service with Dr.Marcus Hayes. If I had known that, there would have been no resignation whatsoever.. Thank you. What would Jesus make of Wokeness intersectionality, and indeed, the movement for resegregation by some of those who are of the Prominent Woke, in light of Galatians 3:28? Pastor John David Edie, who wrote the open letter to the SBC on behalf of leaders at FBC Naples, alleging racism, resigned in early December. Let us pray for you. Sadly, friction in the pastoral transition at FBC Naples has been present from the outset. The judge in the case withheld a conviction but gave Dorrill a $10,000 fine and three years probation. What they did to Rev Wicker and his Godly family is nothing but sinful. Havent hurt enough yet. The film makes note that Marcus Hayes was subsequently ramrodded in Crossroads Church Texas. Our Vision. Our Pastoral Search Committee, lay leadership, and the Pastoral Staff all anticipated that our vote would be nothing less than an affirmative statement from our people that God had sovereignly chosen for Marcus Hayes to be our next Pastor. An economy of power, people, and indeed money which is non-ecclesiastical but highly influential within evangelical churches. So we are ambassador-soldiers, reaching out to sinners with the truth even as we make every effort to destroy the lies and other forms of evil that hold them in deadly bondage. Hotels. *Please note that the preceding is my personal opinion. The GRAND OLD STANDARD, the Baptist Faith and the Message, swallowed up by an effective indoctrination of the Faithful by the Left. If I had known that, there would have been no resignation whatsoever., I was shocked that they would make this immediate. I will say this with as much humility as I can muster at this time.The letter from FBCN was a lie! I can tell you not a single thing mentioned above played a role in my vote. I guess I missed this one. No church creed has ever taught the nonsense that had become so pervasive in evangelicalism. However, CT said it was not able to confirm whether Biltmore Church received such communications. Caudill added that Dorrill advised Caudill that any pastoral candidates suggested by Wicker would be dead on arrival., In the months leading up to Wickers resignation, the church hired Auxano, a church consulting company, to advise the church on the pastoral transition process. church as large as FBC Naples. Following worship services on December 7 and 8, receptions were held to honor Edies six years at the church. Theyve even released an open letter to the SBC with the same claim. This sequence of events raised many questions for me and my wife, Caudill said. More than 450 emails in support of Hayes were received by the church in the past four days, Dorrill said during the Nov. 2 service. Come see the Living Christmas Trees. The removal of the original pastor and his ENTIRE family, the threats to members from a law firm, and the mere fact that they were not abiding by their own by-laws are just a few of the issues going on. Raising concerns over a pastoral candidates seeming endorsement of the book Woke Church doesnt make someone a racist. Former deacon, Blake Crawford, said Wicker was later exonerated of the charges in the anonymous letter by church accounting firm, Phillips Harvey Group. First Naples glorifies God by being a multigenerational, multiethnic, multiplying church, that raises up the next generation of disciple makers, church planters, missionaries, and world changers, to reach Naples to the Nations. Wickers hopes for a smooth transition have been dashed. The decision to excommunicate us 48 hours after a failed vote, without ANY confrontation, was nothing more than a knee jerk reaction to make people pay and to establish a scapegoat. Greear, who had written a letter of recommendation for Marcus Hayes, called the open letter by FBC Naples leadership a bold, Gospel-faithful response of the leadership of FBC Naples. Greear added, Let us be united in lament that any vestige of this kind of sinful prejudice remains in our churches., Also, Danny Akin, president of SBC-affiliated Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (SEBTS), described the open letter as a strong and redemptive word from FBC Naples.. The First Naples School of Worship Arts exists to develop Christ-honoring worshipers through quality instruction for the purpose of exalting the Lord with their God-given talents and abilities. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. There is no room in our Gospel for racism, none whatsoever. The congregation must find a way to publicly be able to bring Hayes Wicker and his family back into this fellowship as loved and former members. Instead, Wicker was quickly forced out. To donate, click here. The shooting drew national headlines, outrage and questions about whether race factored into the officers decision to open fire. With two young children at home, she dedicated her time to being a stay at home mom until 2007 when the Lord opened the door for her to be a preschool teacher at First Baptist Academy in Naples. Jonathan Akin is also national director of young leaders for SBCs North American Mission Board. Why did the church leadership behave in such an aggressive and dismissive manner? Jonathan Head November 26, 2011. In the spring of 1945, Reverend Joseph Engel, his wife and young son were sent by the Brookdale Baptist Church of Bloomfield, New Jersey to plant new churches in South Florida. The pastor was amazing, the atmosphere electrifying, we had fallen in love with the pastor. He also didnt meet the qualifications for the job. An earlier version of this article named the group accused of stealing the email addresses as concerned FBCN members. The refusal to release specific documents to any donating member, also a violation of not only the by-laws (which was the same verbiage as the state law) but also the state of Florida Not-for-profit Compliance Act and the IRS which governs their 501(c)(3) status. Church leaders at First Baptist Church Naples have blasted a faction of their congregation, alleging "racial prejudices" contributed to a failed vote late last month to name a black man the church's new senior pastor. Now with COVID-19 churches this size are facing a very quick death. But what was concluded was that all things were not fair nor were they right. We know this because of the campaign that started just days before by a few disgruntled people in our church.. The power plays, ego trippin (yes, I did say trippin), greed, pride, etc., has been going on throughout church history. Power plays, power trips and finances will have repercussions on Judgment Day.or did certain people forget about that?!. 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So sick of this hate and evil which is exactly what this all is. The deacons vote on it, and, if they approve the recommendation, the individual then is informed. Hayes Wicker was the pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples (Florida) for 27 years. This remains an elephant in the room at every worship service at that church. And because it promises rewards to individuals and organizations influence, students, platform it is both very hard to criticize and functionally unaccountable to any but its own. I do not intend to allow blackmail to prevail at this point and would hope that you would support me. about the pastoral transition process at the church, a process which has descended In it, the group details questions it has about Hayes' qualifications, his tweets and beliefs. Racial prejudice a factor in rejection of black pastor, read the headline of a piece published in the Baptist Standard. Get directions, reviews and information for First Baptist Church - Naples in Naples, FL. In addition, those who have been excommunicated, as well as former Pastor Hayes Wicker, say they feel like their reputations have been sullied. We've got a Bible & Life Group that's perfect for . The campaign, he said in an email to the Daily News, consisted of social media, texting, phone calls and a series of emails. Also concerning to the group was the fact that Marcus Hayes didnt respond to a letter Concerned Members of FBCN had sent him a week earlier, outlining their issues at the church. It is a populist movement of tremendous influence and minimal accountability. The Holy Spirit inspired him to write his short epistle to people who were struggling with some of these very same issues. At least four emails were "broadly sent," he wrote, with others privately sent. Sadly, that did not come to fruition. The Marcus Hayes vote was used to cry wolf. I think this one would have died even if none of this soap opera garbage had taken place. Editors note: This story has been updated to reflect accurate information regarding the participants at a meeting of FBC Naples leaders on April 23. Exactly right. Christianity Today (CT) reported in November that Neil Dorrill had claimed at a Q&A session that inappropriate emails had been sent to Hayess church in North Carolina, Biltmore Church. He and his wife and his children love God and Gods people. Wicker said the church never responded to his letter. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. The biggest reason most did not vote yes, had to do with the fact that people didnt think it was fair to ask Marcus to uproot his family and relocate to a church that was in COMPLETE turmoil and had a leadership that was REFUSING to acknowledge it. As a side note, is the implication that if a white* person disagrees with a person of colour on the legitimacy of Woke political philosophy/identity-building/self-definition in the church, that person must necessarily be a racist? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Naples, FL 34109 (239) 597-2233. Quite the contrary the creedal history of the church was arguably constructed to exclude precisely the kind of views that were being espoused. I can tell you unequivocally racist did NOT play any part in the actions of decision of the excommunicated members of FBC. They arrived in Naples and gathered other Baptist families to meet with them in a small outbuilding behind the local grocery store, meeting for their first worship . Colson thought so highly of an oath of integrity that Wicker had written that Colson included the oath in his landmark book,The Body. 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